062 EU Meetup December 18th 2018

Gravity Exploration

Ignacio Cisneros – Images from EU Skype Group

Empirical Theory

A further and related blow to the statement centered
empiricist account of meaning arose from
studies in the history of science. Empiricists held
science to be the paradigm of rational inquiry. On
this model, both individual beliefs (e.g., scientific
hypotheses) and whole theories were accepted or
rejected by comparing statements implied by a
theory against what experience reveals. However,
the history of science manifests a rather different
picture of this relationship between experience and
belief. Indeed, the historical picture reverses the
order of knowing assumed by empiricism. Belief
determines what in perception is correct and not
vice versa. As a consequence of the interdependence
of statements discussed above, theories
shaped the very perception of what might count as
evidence. One could not observe microbes by looking
through a microscope if one had no way of
integrating what one observes into a more informed
understanding of these observations as those things.
Nothing in the mere act of looking determines
foreground and background, items of significance
from mere “noise.”

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Viktor Schauberger – Living Energy


Schauberger was a big full-bearded man and could be ferociously gruff; he had no patience with greed-motivated fools. But he was untiringly patient when learning from his teacher—the natural world. In Alpine forests, along rivers and in the fields of wise old traditional farmers, the forester/scientist learned about a life-enhancing energy which enters a substance such as water or air through inward-spiraling movements of the substance.

During his lifetime of study he copied nature’s motions in his own engineering.

“Prevailing technology uses the wrong forms of motion. It is based on entropy—on motions which nature uses to break down and scatter materials. Nature uses a different type of motion for creating order and new growth.”

The prevailing explosion based technology—fuel-burning and atom-splitting—fills the world with expanding, heat-generating centrifugal motion, he warned. On the other hand, energy production and other technologies could instead use inward-moving, cold-generating centripetal motion, w h i c h nature employs to build and enliven substances.

Even hydroelectric power plants use destructive motion, he said; they pressure water and chop it through turbines. The result is dead water. His suction turbine, on the other hand, invigorated water. The result, he said, was clean healthy water.

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SAFIRE Project Claims Energy Densities Comparable to the Sun

From: E-Cat World

He summarizes the Electric Universe model in this way:

“Charged matter affecting matter of a different electrical potential”.

“SAFIRE is more like sailing, in that we are looking into the way that nature does things. We are not trying to force the plasma phenomena”

“We’re not trying to get the plasma to organize, but it likes to become organized under certain conditions.”

There is a video at point 24:30 where Childs shows the plasma. He says “it likes to form these tufts, we don’t understand them, but we’re looking at them, they become organized. Their fields are uniform and they like to be separated.”

“Some of the energy and the density that we have now are comparable to what we see in the sun, it’s pretty amazing.”

“This is controversial, I can’t really talk too much at this time yet, how we got this, but what I can say, if some of you are familiar with mass spectroscopy or digital gas analyzers, you’ll know what you’re looking at here; We started off with a chamber of pure hydrogen and we baked it out for a couple of days. Then what happened is, the chamber’s clean it’s purged, we put hydrogen in. Mass spec is saying you have pure hydrogen in the chamber, 100 per cent. We thought this is great . . . We introduced another gas, we got double layers formed. We let it sit in there and bake for a few hours, it was extremely stable . . . We added another gas, the moment the double layers disappeared and we got this [shows mass spectrometer reading] . . . Hydrogen dropped down from 100 per cent to 39 per cent and all these other elements formed.”

He mentions barium and titanium, they don’t know why they formed.

He then shows video of ‘double layers’ forming at about 27:30, then he shows how the energy suddenly concentrates. Slide states: “We were not trying to trap high energy photons and electrons comparable to the sun’s photosphere … but it does.”

Then he shows another video of something that he says has been patented: he states “This is a hollow anode, I will tell you that I’m actually putting deuterium and hydrogen as a mix through the core of the anode.”

“Some of you that are into cold fusion have a hard time getting atomic hydrogen. SAFIRE produces copius amounts of it”

“What we do is we put hydrogen into the hollow anode and we have a special material that the anode is made out of, it dissociates the H2 to H, and because it is positively charged we strip the electron and we actually have protons migrating from off the surface of the anode into the atmosphere”

He says there is no need for the magnetic fields to contain the plasma, it creates it’s own containment field, it wants to organize.

He says the SAFIRE plasma engine creates an environment to facilitate this self-organization.